Getting responses on sugar sites

[TB12]

Hey everyone, I’m having trouble getting many responses on sugar sites. Do you have any tips or suggestions? Am I doing something wrong? I mainly use Seeking.

My stats incase its relevant:
-In my 40s
-Caucasian
-Income: 500k annually 
-Net worth: about $4 milliom
-Average body type (I do work out)


Let me know if I am doing something wrong

[okfallsdude]

whats your opening message or profile layout look like ?

and do you host ?

[quarterback]

Are you ensuring that your initial message clearly conveys the type of arrangement you're seeking? Do you have quality private photos you can share with them if they'd like to see what you look like?

What age range of girls are you reaching out to? Are you only contacting the very attractive ones? The hot young women receive many messages from high quality guys, so to stand out, you need to either look good or be quite wealthy.

[AzianPride]

Being a white guy you are half way there

[yaletownfuckboi]

One problem is that many girls approach Seeking the same way they do dating apps, skimming through profiles without really reading them, flippantly ghosting guys for trivial reasons or no reason at all, and putting in minimal effort. Then they go complain to their friends that there are no rich, decent-looking guys on the site and claim it’s a waste of time. In reality, there are plenty of wealthy men there, they just ghosted them or skip past them for no reason.

There's also an issue with many women having little understanding of what men find attractive in a woman. Hint for any ladies reading this, the pay pig and submissive guys are a very small subsect of the guys on there, if you try to market to those guys, you are probably turning off 90-95% of men.

Additionally, many women have a distorted perception of what "rich" truly means, believing that a man earning half a million dollars a year or with a multimillion-dollar net worth is "poor" and unable to spoil them, which isn't accurate.
There aren't many ultra rich guys in Vancouver, so holding out for those guys isn't going to work unless you have the looks or youth to command those guys.

I receive a fair number of responses from girls on there. Unfortunately, many of the more attractive girls will only reply if you show them your private photos, which you might have to do in some cases. However, I’m still cautious about whom I share my photos with.
So one question is, are your private photos good?

Additionally, guys, please be honest about your stats, lying only makes things worse for everyone else on the platform.

[razzar1234]

I receive a fair number of responses from girls on there. Unfortunately, many of the more attractive girls will only reply if you show them your private photos, which you might have to do in some cases. However, I’m still cautious about whom I share my photos with.
So one question is, are your private photos good?

Are you face out in your private photos? Mine are usually with sunglasses or taken from afar.

[yaletownfuckboi]

I receive a fair number of responses from girls on there. Unfortunately, many of the more attractive girls will only reply if you show them your private photos, which you might have to do in some cases. However, I’m still cautious about whom I share my photos with.
So one question is, are your private photos good?

Are you face out in your private photos? Mine are usually with sunglasses or taken from afar.

If i have one that shows my face its always with sunglasses and a hat on, usually from a distance. 
Otherwise its ones showing my physique where my face isn't shown (me looking down with a hat on or something)

I think most girls just want to see that you are in decent shape and not completely ugly.

[Boomba]

You may be in luck! Apparently Seeking removed net worth and income from their profiles

[not_a_drugdealer]

I've been reported several times on Seeking for just not responding to girls, even got a day suspension because of it. They really need to sort out their system, it's fallen apart over the past few months.

[aceee]

The problem is that they've implemented a reporting system similar to those used by dating apps, so basically, even if you do nothing wrong, you can still be reported and sentenced as "guilty" because they dont look at any evidence, they just see you were reported. Then you end up having to watch one of those videos or face a 24-hour suspension, Ive never been perma-banned but i've heard that happens for no reason. I also think that sometimes, when you report girls, they retaliate by reporting you back out of spite, this has happened to me when I reported girls using stolen pictures.

[razzar1234]

The problem is that they've implemented a reporting system similar to those used by dating apps, so basically, even if you do nothing wrong, you can still be reported and sentenced as "guilty" because they dont look at any evidence, they just see you were reported. Then you end up having to watch one of those videos or face a 24-hour suspension, Ive never been perma-banned but i've heard that happens for no reason. I also think that sometimes, when you report girls, they retaliate by reporting you back out of spite, this has happened to me when I reported girls using stolen pictures.

Waste of time. There are so many girls with stolen or manipulated pics that reporting them all would be impractical.

[OF_Manager]

The problem is that they've implemented a reporting system similar to those used by dating apps, so basically, even if you do nothing wrong, you can still be reported and sentenced as "guilty" because they dont look at any evidence, they just see you were reported. Then you end up having to watch one of those videos or face a 24-hour suspension, Ive never been perma-banned but i've heard that happens for no reason. I also think that sometimes, when you report girls, they retaliate by reporting you back out of spite, this has happened to me when I reported girls using stolen pictures.

Waste of time. There are so many girls with stolen or manipulated pics that reporting them all would be impractical.

I think guys should report any escorts they see on Seeking.  Theres no place for escorts on a sugar site.

Funny side note, I've come across a few escorts who advertise themselves as being in their "20s" on platforms like Tryst, Leolist, or agency sites, but they've listed their ages as much older, like in their 30s or beyond, on Seeking. They must view the men who see escorts as less intelligent than they view men on Seeking

[yaletownfuckboi]

The problem is that they've implemented a reporting system similar to those used by dating apps, so basically, even if you do nothing wrong, you can still be reported and sentenced as "guilty" because they dont look at any evidence, they just see you were reported. Then you end up having to watch one of those videos or face a 24-hour suspension, Ive never been perma-banned but i've heard that happens for no reason. I also think that sometimes, when you report girls, they retaliate by reporting you back out of spite, this has happened to me when I reported girls using stolen pictures.

Once, a girl was messaging me, using stolen pictures of a well known IG influencer to catfish. I responded by sending her a link to the exact photo she was using, but Seeking then suspended my account for 24 hours, saying I was "promoting commercial activity." So stupid. Its clearly just bots doing all the reports and suspensions.

[Wario]

What are the current average PPM's in Vancouver?

[razzar1234]

What are the current average PPM's in Vancouver?

Around 500 is the rough average. Though it would depend on how hot the girl is, proximity, who’s hosting, etc

[Rizzgod]

What are the current average PPM's in Vancouver?

Recently, what I do for PPM has ranged from $200 to $2,000. What I provide depends on how attractive the girl is and what we do during our time together. Recently, I even flew a girl out from LA for a weekend and gave her $20,000, but she was one of the most attractive girls I've come across on Seeking, and thats definitely not something id do often.

Average PPM is usually $500.

[Wario]

What are the current average PPM's in Vancouver?

Recently, what I do for PPM has ranged from $200 to $2,000. What I provide depends on how attractive the girl is and what we do during our time together. Recently, I even flew a girl out from LA for a weekend and gave her $20,000, but she was one of the most attractive girls I've come across on Seeking, and thats definitely not something id do often.

Average PPM is usually $500.

So your one of those whales who ruins it for the rest of us haha

[aceee]

If you're not getting responses on sugar sites, try messaging women over 30, they tend to be much more receptive since they don't receive many messages and are way more desperate. Women in their late 20s are also generally easier to connect with.
It's typically women in their early 20s who have lower response rates, since that’s the age group most men tend to prefer.

[OF_Manager]

"im not like the other girls on here"

-the most common phrase from the mid girls on Seeking